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 Post subject: Units ranking
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:27 am 
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Hi, first of all i wanna say sorry for my english (i hope your eyes will not bleed out). I found this game yesterday and i wasn't sure about nation which i wanna play. I like maths, so i created simple battle system which checked results of battle two diffrent units and put them in rank. Maybe someone will be interested about results.

Ranking by (1.000.000) upkeep (wins/draws/loses):
1. Necromancer: 24 / 0 / 0
2. Behemoth*: 22 / 0 / 2
3. Golden Titan*: 21 / 0 / 3
4. Nightmare*: 18 / 0 / 6
5. Ent*: 18 / 0 / 6
6. Almus*: 18 / 0 / 6
7. Griffin Rider: 16 / 0 / 8
8. Arachnid: 16 / 0 / 8
9. Succubus: 16 / 0 / 8
10. Runesmith: 15 / 0 / 9
11. Frost Cannon: 14 / 0 / 10
12. Death Knight: 14 / 0 / 10
13. Alchemist: 12 / 0 / 12
14. Bone Golem: 11 / 0 / 13
15. Warlock: 10 / 0 / 14
16. Archdruid: 9 / 0 / 15
17. Zeppelin: 9 / 0 / 15
18. Ice Fiend: 9 / 0 / 15
19. Firefly: 8 / 0 / 16
20. Wolf Rider: 8 / 0 / 16
21. Acolyte: 5 / 0 / 19
22. Axe Warrior: 3 / 0 / 21
23. Archer: 2 / 0 / 22
24. Skeleton: 2 / 0 / 22
25. Grunt: 0 / 0 / 24

Ranking by (10.000.000) materials (wins/draws/loses):
1. Necromancer: 24 / 0 / 0
2. Axe Warrior: 23 / 0 / 1
3. Skeleton: 22 / 0 / 2
4. Archer: 21 / 0 / 3
5. Grunt: 20 / 0 / 4
6. Zeppelin: 18 / 0 / 6
7. Wolf Rider: 18 / 0 / 6
8. Firefly: 17 / 0 / 7
9. Acolyte: 17 / 0 / 7
10. Alchemist: 15 / 0 / 9
11. Bone Golem: 14 / 0 / 10
12. Archdruid: 12 / 0 / 12
13. Ice Fiend: 11 / 0 / 13
14. Griffin Rider: 10 / 0 / 14
15. Runesmith: 10 / 0 / 14
16. Warlock: 9 / 0 / 15
17. Succubus: 9 / 0 / 15
18. Ent: 7 / 0 / 17
19. Frost Cannon: 6 / 0 / 18
20. Death Knight: 5 / 0 / 19
21. Arachnid: 4 / 0 / 20
22. Behemoth: 4 / 0 / 20
23. Golden Titan: 3 / 0 / 21
24. Nightmare: 1 / 0 / 23
25. Almus: 0 / 0 / 24

Upkeep:
*Behemoth - second lost is vs Succubus, because of his 40 resistance vs normal attacks, but 89.5% of Succubus were dead anyway
*Golden Titan - lost vs Necro, Beh and Ent (Ent is very strong vs Titans, 39% were still alive after that fight)
All 3 next units lose vs Necro and Behemoth, Nightmare looks strongest from them, their 3-4 loses depend mainly on fluke with resists:
*Nightmare - loses: Golem, Necro, Behemoth, Arachnid, Titan, Alchemist
*Ent - loses: Nightmare, Succubus, Necro, Behemoth, Almus, Griffin Rider
*Almus - loses: Nightmare, Necro, Behemoth, Titan, Runesmith, Firefly

Cost/materials:
No surprising battles. Necro won everything, Axe Warrior lost vs Necro, Skeleton lost vs Necro and Axe Warrior etc. Almus lost vs everything, Nightmare won with Almus etc.

Few words about calculations:
Calculator takes into account: hp, damage (and type), regeneration*, resistances*.
Calculator doesn't take into account: skills of units and upgrades.
Maybe I will add skills and upgrades (when i will find information about them) one day.

*regeneration - example: 50 units, 21 dies from attack, regeneration is 20% - in game every from these 21 units has ~15.23% to resurrection, i did this like 21*15.23% = ~320%, so 3 units are alive again (exclusion randomness for same results)
*resistances - if i found good formula: 0 resist makes 100% hp, 100 resist makes 200% hp, 200 resist makes 300% hp, 900 resist makes 1000% hp etc.

If someone wanna see results of particular fight - quick version of calculator:
https://uploadfiles.io/3sa4h
It creates txt file with informations about battles, but your pc propably will block it anyway.
If someone wanna see course of particular fight - write here, i will put it on. It looks like this:

Necromancer vs Nightmare

Amount: 333333 / 25000
Dead: 52941 / 3881
Regeneration: 9711 / 357
Final amount: 290103 / 21476

Amount: 290103 / 21476
Dead: 45182 / 3400
Regeneration: 8303 / 312
Final amount: 253224 / 18388

Amount: 253224 / 18388
Dead: 38310 / 2996
Regeneration: 7059 / 274
Final amount: 221973 / 15666

Amount: 221973 / 15666
Dead: 32166 / 2663
Regeneration: 5949 / 243
Final amount: 195756 / 13246

Amount: 195756 / 13246
Dead: 26608 / 2396
Regeneration: 4947 / 217
Final amount: 174095 / 11067

Amount: 174095 / 11067
Dead: 21502 / 2194
Regeneration: 4026 / 196
Final amount: 156619 / 9069

Amount: 156619 / 9069
Dead: 16734 / 2058
Regeneration: 3163 / 181
Final amount: 143048 / 7192

Amount: 143048 / 7192
Dead: 12224 / 1994
Regeneration: 2338 / 170
Final amount: 133162 / 5368

Amount: 133162 / 5368
Dead: 7947 / 2017
Regeneration: 1541 / 159
Final amount: 126756 / 3510

Amount: 126756 / 3510
Dead: 4008 / 2156
Regeneration: 789 / 134
Final amount: 123537 / 1488

Amount: 123537 / 1488
Dead: 872 / 1488
Regeneration: 174 / 0
Final amount: 122839 / 0

Have a nice day.
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 Post subject: Re: Units ranking
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:37 am 
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Oh my! Thank you very much, most impressive.
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 Post subject: Re: Units ranking
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:06 pm 
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Thanks bro.
I did second and last version (with all upgrades) today.
- basic additional stats (bonus dmg, hp, ...)
- simple bonus skills (Almus, Warlock, ...)
- other skills (Frost Cannon, Death Knight, Nightmare)
Skills are here 100% always, they don't depend on the number of troops


Ranking by (1.000.000) upkeep (wins/draws/loses):
1. Death Knight*: 23 / 0 / 1
2. Necromancer: 22 / 0 / 2
3. Nightmare*: 21 / 0 / 3
4. Behemoth: 20 / 0 / 4
5. Almus: 19 / 0 / 5
6. Golden Titan: 19 / 0 / 5
7. Ent: 17 / 0 / 7
8. Arachnid: 16 / 0 / 8
9. Griffin Rider: 15 / 0 / 9
10. Runesmith: 15 / 0 / 9
11. Succubus: 15 / 0 / 9
12. Frost Cannon*: 14 / 0 / 10
13. Archdruid: 11 / 0 / 13
14. Alchemist: 10 / 0 / 14
15. Warlock: 10 / 0 / 14
16. Zeppelin: 9 / 0 / 15
17. Bone Golem: 9 / 0 / 15
18. Wolf Rider: 8 / 0 / 16
19. Ice Fiend: 8 / 0 / 16
20. Firefly: 7 / 0 / 17
21. Acolyte: 5 / 0 / 19
22. Axe Warrior: 3 / 0 / 21
23. Archer: 2 / 0 / 22
24. Skeleton: 2 / 0 / 22
25. Grunt: 0 / 0 / 24

Most interesting fights (... vs ... - winner (units after fight)):

Necromancer (333333) vs Death Knight (50000) - Necromancer (241569)
Necromancer (333333) vs Nightmare (25000) - Nightmare (11338)
Frost Cannon (50000) vs Necromancer (333333) - Frost Cannon (14435)
Arachnid (50000) vs Nightmare (25000) - Arachnid (25063)
Behemoth (33333) vs Nightmare (25000) - Behemoth (3841)
Death Knight (50000) vs Nightmare (25000) - Death Knight (26449)
Almus (40000) vs Behemoth (33333) - Almus (11536)
Behemoth (33333) vs Necromancer (333333) - Necromancer (220546)
Behemoth (33333) vs Succubus (50000) - Succubus (9801)
Behemoth (33333) vs Death Knight (50000) - Death Knight (32678)
Almus (40000) vs Runesmith (66667) - Runesmith (29271)
Almus (40000) vs Golden Titan (33333) - Golden Titan (17410)
Almus (40000) vs Necromancer (333333) - Necromancer (147923)
Almus (40000) vs Death Knight (50000) - Death Knight (22568)
Almus (40000) vs Nightmare (25000) - Nightmare (1198)
Ent (50000) vs Golden Titan (33333) - Ent (20994)
Golden Titan (33333) vs Behemoth (33333) - Behemoth (18031)
Golden Titan (33333) vs Necromancer (333333) - Necromancer (169411)
Golden Titan (33333) vs Death Knight (50000) - Death Knight (33366)
Golden Titan (33333) vs Nightmare (25000) - Nightmare (4076)
Frost Cannon (50000) vs Acolyte (333333) - Frost Cannon (37560)

Ranking by (10.000.000) materials (wins/draws/loses):
Cost of upgrades isn't taken into account
1. Necromancer: 24 / 0 / 0
2. Axe Warrior: 23 / 0 / 1
3. Skeleton: 22 / 0 / 2
4. Archer: 21 / 0 / 3
5. Grunt: 20 / 0 / 4
6. Zeppelin: 18 / 0 / 6
7. Wolf Rider: 18 / 0 / 6
8. Firefly: 17 / 0 / 7
9. Acolyte: 17 / 0 / 7
10. Archdruid: 14 / 0 / 10
11. Alchemist: 13 / 0 / 11
12. Bone Golem: 12 / 0 / 12
13. Ice Fiend: 11 / 0 / 13
14. Warlock: 11 / 0 / 13
15. Griffin Rider: 9 / 0 / 15
16. Death Knight*: 9 / 0 / 15
17. Runesmith: 8 / 0 / 16
18. Succubus: 8 / 0 / 16
19. Frost Cannon*: 7 / 0 / 17
20. Ent: 6 / 0 / 18
21. Arachnid: 4 / 0 / 20
22. Behemoth: 3 / 0 / 21
23. Almus: 2 / 0 / 22
24. Nightmare*: 2 / 0 / 22
25. Golden Titan: 1 / 0 / 23

*Death Knight - every unit has 10% for kill additional unit (since round 2) - in simulator: Knights*0.1 ~= additional kills (i'm not sure they kill additional units in round (like i did) or they kill additional units BEFORE every round, second case looks really crazy, so i did first one)
*Nightmare - opponent has 85% hp
*Frost Cannon - additional dmg: opponents*15 (1000 Skeletons = 15000 additional dmg, 800 Sk = 12k add. dmg, ...)


A few words from myself: 5/6 units in 1.-3. are from Necro. I don't have to write anymore.
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